So, back in April I got a speeding ticket, here’s the story: Are Police Above The Law?
One of my reps had one of her people forward it to the PSP as I requested (the day after I sent it to them) and I got a response from PSP today (finally). Here it is:
Your complaint regarding Tpr. EILER’s driving and duty performance on 04/27/12 has been reviewed by myself and several members of the PSP command staff.
After a thorough review, we have found no wrongdoing on the part of Tpr. EILER, and no violations of departmental regulations.
Your complaint has been resolved and the matter closed.
Cpl. Todd BRIAN | Patrol Unit Supervisor
Pennsylvania State Police |Troop F, Lamar/
7127 Nittany Valley Dr | Mill Hall, PA, 17751 www.psp.state.pa.us
Well, that is an unsatisfactory answer, so I sent this in response:
—————————- Original Message —————————-
Subject: Re: PSP Complaint
Date: Wed, August 22, 2012 3:36 pm
To: “Brian, Todd A” | TBRIAN@pa.gov
Cc: “Young, David J” | email@example.com
“Tobias, Robert F” | firstname.lastname@example.org
So, you condone your officers violating the law (speed limits and other
sections of PA Title 75) and disregarding public safety (severe congestion
with erretic speed changes caused solely by Eiler’s driving)? Average
citizens get tickets for these violations.
It is apparent that you, and Eiler, believe that you are above the law.
This means that you do not actually recognize the rule of law unless it
applies to citizens. Do you arrogant bastards even realize that the Rule
of Law protects you more than it is supposed to protect the citizen? How
long do you expect citizens to tolerate this lawless behavior from the
“law enforcement” officers? You are all a disgrace to the uniform. Every
time I have to interact with one of you people wearing the PSP uniform, my
trust and respect of you all gets lower.
Beware what will happen when we average citizens begin to treat the law
the way you treat it. You will be the first to feel the effects of it.
We are fast approaching a day when a citizen will feel safer by running
from anyone wearing a badge and/or uniform than submitting to you… And a
citizen running from you is the best you could hope for, many won’t run,
they will choose to protect themselves from you in other ways.
Reestablish the Rule of Law before it is too late. Punish Eiler for his
violations (that were recorded on video) and spread the word amongst your
troops that further violations of the law will not be tolerated before the
citizens feel they have to correct you. The fact that I was speeding is
not in dispute, but in the video you can clearly see that I was following
Eiler at the same speed he was travelling without lights and/or sirens (as
required by state law). That is all the evidence you need to prove that
he was violating the law. His attitude when I questioned him about his
speed is more than enough to show that he doesn’t believe the law applies
to him. I won’t go into his actions when I asked him about it in the
courtroom, but it was even more disturbing than what you can see in the
This is not the end of this matter.
They simply don’t realize what they are setting themselves up for.
So, back in April I attended the Liberty Summit in Mercer, PA. Those that were there knew that I got a speeding ticket while en-route. The thing is, I did it on purpose. Well, before I write the whole story twice, here’s the email I just sent:
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:36:35
Subject: Are police above the law?
To: Governor@pa.gov; email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
I cannot find any email addresses for the State Police or its Commissioner (Frank Noonan), so please forward this message in its entirety to him so that he/they can view the linked video.
Back on April 27th I was traveling across the state on I-80 West. It was still early in the day and there hadn’t been much traffic all morning, individual vehicles here and there, but absolutely no congestion… until I got to the Williamsport area. I got to that area and there was a long line of vehicles in both lanes that couldn’t maintain a speed to save their life. For the record, I am a disabled vet with two bad knees, when I travel any distance I set my cruise control within 5 mph of the speed limit, when I have to take the cruise off for no apparent reason it not only annoys me, but it starts to hurt after a while.
Anyway, after about 15 minutes, I finally managed to weave my way far enough through this traffic to see that the cause for this congestion was a State Police Cruiser. He was fluctuating his speed between 65-80 mph and changing lanes frequently, whether there was any reason to or not. After another few minutes of this nonsense, I decided to pull out my video camera and record what I was about to do. I had decided to get up behind this cruiser, set my cruise control, and then pass whenever he moved over. So that’s what I did, and I got pulled over and was issued a speeding ticket. Now, I won’t deny that the speed he (and I) were moving at when I set my cruise control was well above the posted speed limit, but when he said he pulled me over for speeding, I asked him “what about your speeding?” He acted like he wasn’t speeding and seemed offended that I would even think that he could have been breaking the law.
So, I plead not guilty and took it to court. I know that I was, in fact, guilty of speeding, but the whole purpose for me getting the speeding ticket in the first place was to prove that he was breaking the law (I haven’t had a speeding ticket other than this one in around 10 years, I don’t drive like that anymore). So, we get to court and Eiler tried to make me an offer to plead out because he “didn’t appreciate the way it went”. He said that I could plead out to a simple failure to obey a signal and there would be no points on my license. I decided to go ahead and take the trial.
So, we get into the trial and he proceeds to state his case against me. When it was my turn, I decided that rather than to defend myself I would accuse him. All I want is EQUAL JUSTICE. He is not above the law… or is he? Eiler seems to believe that he is above the law. At one point, he actually stated that he has the right to speed. First off, my rights come from my Creator, not from any government. Secondly, while he may have the authority to speed, PA Title 75 (The Pennsylvania Vehicle Code) §3105(a) says that The driver of an emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm or other emergency call, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions stated in this section. So, prior to my passing Eiler, none of these conditions were met, but he was speeding in violation of the law. Let’s continue. PA Title 75 §3105(b)(3) states that the driver may exceed the maximum speed limits so long as the driver does not endanger life or property… Well, we already know that none of the conditions required to allow him to exceed the speed limit were met prior to my passing him, so let’s look a little closer: he was endangering life and property by causing congestion on a highway where there was no reason for it (prior to and after my interactions with Eiler, for the entire 300 mile trip I was on, there was absolutely no congestion on the interstate)… well, there’s another violation of state law. But wait, I’m not done yet. 75§3105(c) says The privileges granted in this section to an emergency vehicle shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of an audible signal and visual signals meeting the requirements and standards set forth in regulations adopted by the department. Well, you can see in the attached video that he was not using either audible or visual signals while cruising down the interstate at 80 mph.
So, since I am not allowed to pull someone over or to write tickets, I passed him to make him stop. He seemed indignant at the time that I would question him about his speed. When in the courtroom, I asked him what his maximum speed was before he ever saw me and he couldn’t answer. Then I asked him what his average speed was and he couldn’t answer. He stated that he doesn’t pay attention to his speedometer while driving, but he “doesn’t have a lead foot, so it’s not an issue”. Umm… Eiler… I have video that would disagree with that statement.
Also, at the very end of the video, you can see Eiler pull away and make an immediate u-turn. When we were in the courtroom, he claims that he left “in such a hurry” because he was responding to a domestic disturbance call. Umm, OK, so he was actually (supposedly) responding to an emergency call but didn’t turn on lights or siren? Yet another violation of state law. How many violations of the law is he allowed in an hour?
The whole purpose for this message is that I demand EQUAL JUSTICE for all. Eiler doesn’t believe that he is a citizen that has to follow the same rules as all of us little people. I beg to differ. He is subject to the same rules as the rest of us. He claims that he has special training, but who is to say that I haven’t had training? I would actually be willing to test my skills against his any day, even with my physical disabilities. He was overweight (you can see it in the video… a bulletproof vest doesn’t make your face and neck fat). I’ve also driven at over 160 mph on both a motorcycle and in cars… I doubt Eiler has ever been close to that speed, so I’d put my driving skills against him. And then there’s the firearms aspect of being “law enforcement”… I’m former military and I train regularly with my firearms. I also reload my own ammunition and have played with gunsmithing. I’d put my weapons skills against his. I also wonder what his education level is? The point of listing some of my skills and qualifications is that Eiler is most certainly no better than me in any aspect that I can imagine (I’m pretty sure I have a firmer grasp of the Constitution than he does too).
Yet, this fat cop thinks he is above the law?
He is not the first officer that I have come across that believes he is above the law. I am tired of this holier than thou attitude from public servants. I am a citizen of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and of these United States of America. I am not a servant nor a subject. I am writing you people to get you to take action to ensure that there is equal justice for everyone, regardless of their profession. This is a nation of laws. When the Rule of Law no longer applies to a select portion of the population, it no longer applies to any portion. Do you really want to see what happens when the rule of law is dead?
Also, I have not contacted any media about this yet, but if I don’t hear about some momentum soon to correct this (and other) officers attitude, I will begin contacting media until something is done to eliminate the elitist attitude.
(National Weather Service) If you have a cell phone, it may soon make some curious sounds and vibrations the next time you find yourself in the possible path of a tornado or several other types of weather emergencies.
Starting any day now, the Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) system will go live. That means National Weather Service warnings for dangerous weather, including tornadoes, flash flooding and hurricanes, will be delivered free of charge to many mobile users on major wireless carriers. The alerts will look like text alerts, but use a different technology that is not affected by network congestion.
The WEA system is “location-based,” which means that you only receive alerts relevant to your physical location. In other words, if you travel to another city, you’ll receive alerts for where you are, not back home.
AMBER Alerts and Presidential Alerts during a national emergency will also be delivered through the WEA system. If you have a WEA-capable phone, you’ll receive alerts unless you opt out (you can’t opt out of Presidential Alerts, however).
Interestingly, the alerts will *not* interrupt phone conversations, but rather will be delayed until a call is finished.
NWS Warnings and the corresponding messages that will be sent out through WEA. (National Weather Service)
Here’s a selection of FAQs on the WEA system from the National Weather Service in Sterling, Va.:
What are WEA messages?
Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) are emergency messages sent by authorized government alerting authorities through your mobile carrier. Government partners include local and state public safety agencies, FEMA, the FCC, the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Weather Service.
What types of weather alerts will be delivered?
*Tornado and Flash Flood Warnings
*Hurricane, Typhoon, Dust Storm and Extreme Wind Warnings
*Blizzard and Ice Storm Warnings
Why is this important to me?
Alerts received at the right time can help keep you safe during an emergency. With WEA, alerts can be sent to your mobile device when you may be in harm’s way, without need to download an app or subscribe to a service.
What does a WEA message look like?
WEA will look like a text message. The WEA message will show the type and time of the alert, any action you should take, and the agency issuing the alert. The message will be no more than 90 characters.
What should I do when I receive a WEA message?
Follow any action advised by the emergency message. Seek more details from local media or authorities.
OK, so, now you’ve read that. It sounds good, doesn’t it? Now you don’t have to look for a special app to track the weather and weather warnings around you, right?
But wait, hold on a second, let me re-read this, something just doesn’t feel right about it. What was that piece that caught my attention?
Hmmm… oh, yeah, there it is, “AMBER Alerts and Presidential Alerts during a national emergency will also be delivered through the WEA system. If you have a WEA-capable phone, you’ll receive alerts unless you opt out (you can’t opt out of Presidential Alerts, however).”
So, while this system will appeal to the lazy masses, it doesn’t occur to them that the federal government will now be empowered to “provide” you with any information they want, based on your location. This means that the governments own computers will undoubtedly be tracking your every movement with your cell phone. I know, you say they already do that, and I won’t disagree, the only difference as I see it is that right now the government has to “request” that data from a third party (just because the third parties never deny them doesn’t mean they aren’t required to “ask”). Since this WEA program is a location based service to provide you with real-time alerts, this means the computers must know where you are. Does anyone believe that the government will “forget” to disable the memory on those computers?
I also see a lot of other reasons why this is a bad thing, but I don’t know where to begin pointing them out.
OK, so that’s where I’m at, this is one more violation against us, but what do we do about it? I’m open to suggestions here. Short of lead flying, I’m not sure what we can do.
I was having a conversation at work the other day with someone that I consider a friend. We were talking about personal security and why I carry a gun openly, and he was trying to make me feel bad about scaring people (the little old lady in line behind me at the store, etc.) He asked me how many times I have had to use it since I started carrying. When I said never, he asked me what the chances of needing it were in civilized society.
And then he walked away to get his coffee. The conversation and his attitude upset me enough to write the following email:
From: Roote, Mark Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:38 AM To: Subject: this is civilized society?
From the Times Leader’s Police Blotter:
– Victoria Lopez reported someone kicked in a door to her apartment in Hanover Village and stole items. The burglary occurred sometime in the last three weeks.
– Police are investigating a robbery of an 82-year-old woman whose purse was stolen from her on Mine Street at about 3:35 p.m. Tuesday. A dark-skinned male, about 5 feet, 6 inches tall wearing a blue hooded sweatshirt, grabbed the purse from the woman, who fought her attacker. She suffered an injury to her arm, police said.
– Police are investigating an armed robbery at the Turkey Hill on Alter Street at 3:53 a.m. Wednesday. A white male, 5 feet, 8 inches tall and about 200 pounds, wearing a black knit hat, black pants and a long sleeve shirt, got away with an undetermined amount of cash. The suspect brandished a handgun, police said.
So, after all of that, you’re going to tell me that statistically I shouldn’t worry about my safety? I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you. It is my responsibility to protect myself and my family (multiple supreme courts have ruled that the police have no legal duty to protect… not to mention that they are almost never around when they are needed… “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away”). If you are comfortable playing the odds, go for it. I am not comfortable with that. I am fully aware that bad things happen unexpectedly and there is evil in the world. My gun is part of my insurance plan. This insurance plan has multiple parts to it, including avoiding places that I think are dangerous if at all possible.
The fact that anyone, whether it be you or some little old lady in line behind me at the checkout, is afraid of me simply for carrying an inanimate object, it’s not my problem. Humans are born with the right (and responsibility) of self defense. If you choose not to exercise that right it’s your prerogative and I won’t hold it against you. You have no authority to restrict my rights to self defense, period. I don’t care whether it makes you uncomfortable or not. Seeing two gay guys go at it makes me uncomfortable, and a lot of things that the media says (when they can be proven as lies) makes me uncomfortable, but I’m not trying to restrict their rights to free choice or speech.
The next time you think about restricting my rights, any of them, not just my right to bear arms, replace the right you want to restrict from me with the right to free speech and see how reasonable it sounds. In addition to my firearms being protected by the 2A, my right to free expression is being threatened. My openly carried sidearm is a warning, would you be more comfortable with me wearing/carrying a sign that says “I have a gun and I know how to use it”? I think that would cause more fear than actually openly carrying, but in the end, I DON’T CARE if it instills fear in “innocent” people… and I have no obligation to care. I am armed to protect myself and others that I see that need help, if anyone doesn’t like it they can tell me about it, but I have no obligation to give anyone a “warm and fuzzy” feeling. The world is a hard place. Either a person recognizes that and does everything they can to prepare for it or they don’t. I choose to prepare.
Also, “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others.” ~Thomas Jefferson. Roughly, that boils down to: You have the right to Freedom OF Religion, not freedom FROM religion. This same rule applies to absolutely every other human right. You have freedom OF, not freedom FROM.
Sorry for the long email, but this is a very touchy subject for me on so many levels. No matter how civilized we think we are, there is only a very thin veneer of civilization between life as we know it and total breakdown of society (AKA, after Katrina life in the Superdome).
It is my responsibility to protect myself and my family, and I take my responsibilities VERY seriously.
I know it’s been a while since I’ve posted, but I was never a good writer and I don’t think most things that happen to me are of any import. I’m going to try to talk a little bit more, but I make no promises. Here’s a quick update of what’s been happening: Designing/building my raised bed gardens, starting a rebuild project on a 1982 Honda Goldwing, rebuilding the automatic transmission in my truck, reloading ammo (still fairly new to it and trying to “perfect” my loads, 1 load for the .308, 2 for the .243, & 1 for the .223, plus a load for my .40 so I can better afford to practice with what I carry… jacketed hollow-points are expensive) and teaching my 9 year old step-daughter how to shoot (plus trying to give my wife some pointers). Add to all of that a full time job and the fact that I have an 11 month old son and there’s not much time left in the day. So, again, I know I haven’t been posting much, but I’m not all that interesting. When I think I have something to say, I’ll say it.
Since I made my post about the VIPR teams, several people have asked about whether I think that they want to get hit. Give them an excuse to lash out, etc.
I actually have thought about that, quite a bit. It factored into my planned response if you can believe it.
There are several thoughts that have been running through my mind about this, but I’ll start here: No, I don’t think the people manning these checkpoints want to be hit. In fact, I think it will scare the ever-livin’ shit out of them when they do. I’m not even sure the people planning these things expect them to get hit. TPTB think that we are spineless. Mike V. has covered this numerous times in his responses to the gun control cowards. They are projecting their cowardice onto the general population. They don’t really believe it will ever happen. And can we really blame them? When is the last time one of their anti-Constitutional paper-check parties got violently disbanded? *crickets*
Yeah, that’s what I thought. So, no, I don’t think they expect to ever get hit, but I do know, without any doubt, that when they do get hit they will push for stricter controls. (Never let a crisis go to waste, right?)
Another thought is, how comfortable would you be knowing that you were bait? If the people manning these checkpoints knew that there were snipers on overwatch because they expected any kind of serious trouble, you don’t think any of them would quit their jobs and start blabbing about it? Complaining about how their bosses expected them to be prepared to get shot at? And even if they were given that warning, do you think that none of them would follow that line of thought through to, OK, might someone try to ambush us instead of flipping out right in front of us where we have superior advantage?
I know plenty of people that do enforcement jobs simply for the paycheck and the perks, but if you told them there was a sniper on overwatch because bad shit just might happen, they’d quit. They have no intention of dying for their jobs, it’s a paycheck, not a firmly held belief system. They don’t really care what they’re doing, and as long as they’re the ones with the guns they’re fine as can be with it, but tell them that someone might actually start shooting at them in the dark because they’re running a sobriety checkpoint and they’ll choose desk duty every day of the week and twice on holidays. It is my opinion that the vast majority of the people with “badges” manning these checkpoints are gigantic cowards. They took these jobs because they get to exercise power over other people. And as has been mentioned by David, they aren’t the smartest people available.
So, no, I don’t think they are currently expecting to die for running these random checkpoints. They may get hit a couple times before they start putting out an overwatch (or get enough revolting to not be able to man them).
OK, so we’ve covered that. The second part to it is: I will be passing through said checkpoint at least once. From there, I can do a recon and look for any signs of an overwatch position. If I feel that it is a risk, I will take some other action.
Yes, I am concerned that they might be expecting it, if I wasn’t I’d be an idiot. But I also don’t think they are street smart enough. Don’t underestimate your opponent, but don’t overestimate him to the point of paralysis either. (Someone else said that to me, but I have no idea who at this point).
A very disturbing thought just occurred to me.
Remember a couple of months ago when the DOJ decided to make it legal for them to lie to anyone and say that “no documents exist” in response to any FOIA requests they might receive?
OK, now there’s this new NDAA that does not specifically prohibit the indefinite detention of American Citizens captured on American soil just because the government says so. (No link, it is recent enough that damn near every blog and even some “mainstream” “news” networks are talking about it).
So, the thought that occurred to me was:
Fedgov decides I’m a threat. They break into my house and manage to capture me without killing me or my family. They ship me to Gitmo. My wife contacts an attorney who then contacts the agency that my wife says entered my house (they all have big white letters, right?). Said agency denies entering my house and denies the existence of any documents about me or any investigation they may have had ongoing about me.
What next? My wife saw them do this, hell, maybe the neighbors saw it too. But the government says it didn’t happen. What then?
Does this disturb anyone else as much as it disturbs me?
I need to update my security and figure out how to safely feed that video somewhere other than my home computer. At least that way there would be evidence of these “unidentified bandits” that the lawyer could use to get “law enforcement” involved in looking for me. I mean, after all, if a government agency didn’t take me it must have been a gang of criminals (but why would they leave my family behind?)
I just sent this to Tom Marino’s (PA 10th) legislative director:
Justify to me how Tom voted yes on the bill that allows capture and indefinite detention of American citizens captured on American soil without the benefit of any trial.
I am not asking for this, I am demanding it… Agreeing to this bill is a Declaration of War on the People of the United States.
You can try to claim that there are provisions that protect citizens, but before you tell me that; define a terrorist and explain to me how any TEA Party member, extreme couponer or Mormon couldn’t fit into the loose definition of ‘terrorist’ in this bill.
There is a very slim chance that you can convince me that this act cannot be abused now by the obama administration or in the future by any other administration.
I understand that it was included in the DOD appropriations bill, but it would have been better to vote no and defund the military than to allow this evil through. And this is coming from someone that has a LOT of friends currently serving overseas in combat zones. I do not make this statement lightly. It would be better to bring them and all of our equipment home than to pass this bill. So, claiming that he “had” to pass the bill to “take care of our troops” is a bullshit answer. That is NO reason to declare war on the People of this country.
I cannot stress this enough. The House and the Senate have declared war on We The People and the president is expected to sign it tomorrow. He has already said that he would not veto it. Do you fucking idiots have any god damned idea what you are fucking with. I personally fit into several of the “suspected terrorist” categories. When the government decides to come and get me, PEOPLE WILL DIE. Yes, I will most likely be one of them, but I will not be the only one. You fucking idiots are playing with a flamethrower in a fucking magazine and expecting life to go on. Do you have any idea what Tom and the other 283 congressmen have just done?
There is a saying in my line of work. I work in Industrial Safety, specifically in mitigating the chances of a dust explosion. Basically there are 4 things you need for an explosion to occur: 1) Enclosure 2) Fuel 3) Oxygen and 4) Spark. The saying is that ignition is free. You can do a very good job of reducing the risks of the first three, but ignition is free. What that means is that any little thing, the tiniest piece of scrap from an operation picked up and blown through the system until it contacts a ferrous metal will set it off. I was just told about an incident at a plant. The plant did everything they could to eliminate all hazards, and they did a very good job. But one day, someone was smoking outside in the parking lot and flicked the butt. A pigeon picked it up and flew into the warehouse, then got too close to a vacuum line and the butt got sucked in. An explosion occurred. It never should have, they did everything they could to prevent it, but the spark was free.
Now, having said that, the government has created the first three conditions and now you’re playing with matches.
Tom, and everyone else that passed this bill will be held responsible when the civil war that you have just declared on the population explodes.
So, again, tell me where I’m wrong. I will be very surprised if you can convince me I am wrong, but I do have an open mind. And if you can convince me I will share that with the people I know.
If you can’t convince me, congratulations on starting the next civil war. Are you prepared for it?
I’ll let you all know if I get an answer. Prior to this, Drew and I have been in irregular conversations regarding Fast & Furious and some other things. It was enough that I am confident he will recognize my name. Up til today I had respect for Tom, I can almost guarantee that respect is gone.
If my employer can record anything I do on their property and on their dime, why the hell do the police think they are special (don’t answer that, they’re all arrogant assholes). Well, the police are OUR employees, they need to be forced to answer to US for the crimes they commit.
The police (and ALL government employees) have absolutely NO reasonable expectation of privacy while on the clock. Since more and more police are showing themselves to be criminals, usually violent ones, I’ll be damned if I’m going to have any unrecorded interaction with them… whether I have their “permission” or not. I don’t trust them. It’s that simple.
Let’s face it, there was a time when people with a badge were respected and usually told the truth. It was easier to believe they were being honest because the people they arrested were usually criminals. Unfortunately that is no longer true. I am more inclined to believe the perp than I am to believe the badge these days. The bad part is, most juries will still believe the badge, which is why I intent to have a recording to back me up. I try not to lie, I want the proof of that.
On a similar note, what about making a button to wear on your hat or shirt that says “This conversation is being recorded for training purposes”? (Kinda like when you call most businesses)
I am making it habit to never leave the house without at least my digital audio recorder running. If nothing happens, I just delete the file, but if anything does happen I have the recording. We shouldn’t need it, but this could be our disclaimer to the police… ie, “This conversation is being recorded, if you don’t want to be recorded, walk away”. If I have time, or know in advance that I’m likely walking into trouble, I have my iPhone set up to do a live stream to YouTube (thanks to qik.com). I used this feature while in Philly in November 2010.
Before I proceed further:
I decided to call his office before completing this post so I could relay the conversation and the lady that answered the phone said that the case was dismissed. I have since sent the following email to the Circuit Clerk’s office:
A video that played on the news back in September is being circulated on
the internet and generating some anger (I am one of those angered by it).
This video is about Michael Allison’s case, he was charged 5 times for
recording the police. When I called Mr. Wiseman’s office to voice my
opinion, I was informed that the case had been dismissed. I would like to
verify whether it has or not. If it has, I will do my best to calm down
the people’s anger over the video.
I would appreciate a prompt response (since news travels fast on the
I’ll update this post if/when I get a response.
I got a response from the Circuit Clerk’s office:
The case was declared Unconstitutional on September 15, 2011. They State’s
Attorney and Attorney General’s Office has appealed it to the Supreme Court.
So, it would seem that the Judge had some sense, but the State’s Attorney (Wiseman) and the Attorney General need a wake up call.
I just called Senator Toomey’s office in DC and pretty much got the response I expected. The phone call went pretty much as follows:
Toomey’s Assistant (TA): “Senator Toomey’s office”
Me: “I need some information on the Defense Bill that just passed”
TA: “What information do you need?”
Me: “If I read this thing correctly, an amendment was included that allows the military to arrest and detain an American citizen on American soil indefinitely without any form of trial… Is this true?”
TA: “Please hold”
Me: *twiddles my thumbs*
TA: “There were 2 amendments that talked about this (he gave me numbers, but I didn’t write them down), and American citizens are specifically exempted”
Me: “Yeah, I read that, but that’s not what it said, it said American citizens were exempted UNLESS they were affiliated with Al Qaeda or a similar organization.”
TA: “I’ll let the senator know that you’re disappointed with his vote on…” (I cut him off)
Me: “You may want to phrase it a bit more strongly than disappointed, because if what I understand is true, he has just declared war on every American citizen”
TA: “That’s not what that means…” (I cut him off again)
Me: “Oh? What does it mean then? Who defines what a similar organization is?”
TA: *no answer*
Me: “OK, so, if American soil has been declared part of the battlefield and the military can detain any American citizen at the whim of any President or military member for an indefinite period of time with no trial or anything, what do you call it? I call that a declaration of war against every American Citizen, and I don’t take that declaration lightly. If that is not the case, then the Senator needs to come out loud and clear and say that’s not what is in the bill and have the proof to back that up.”
TA: “Uh, um, thank you for your call.”
Me: “I’ll be looking forward to the Senators response”
Note, he never asked for my name, and I never gave it, nor did I give a phone number or anything else… he never asked since we went straight to the meat of the issue. Also note, he never told me that I was wrong about what it said after the American Citizens are exempt.
This is not an exact transcript of the conversation as I haven’t figured out how to record phone calls on my iphone yet (does anyone know how to do that?)
I won’t waste my time calling Casey’s office as I already know that he is a progressive jackass and not worth my time. He will not be returning to office after 2012 (if we make it that far), so we just have to put up with him for now.